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3 points by eds 6029 days ago | link | parent

The one nice thing about multiple values that I don't think returning lists accomplishes is that if you have a function that doesn't expect to receive multiple values, it will just use the first value returned. For example, in CL, #'truncate returns two values, the quotient and the remainder. But if you pass the return values of #'truncate to #'+, it just pretends you only passed a single value.

  * (truncate 5 3)
  1
  2
  * (+ (truncate 5 3) 6)
  7
I don't know of any way to make this work implicitly with returning lists... you would need to explicitly test if you were receiving a list and then destructure it accordingly. (Please correct me if you know of a better way around this.)


5 points by almkglor 6029 days ago | link

Using (car:truncate ...) is th best I could think of ^^

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2 points by bOR_ 6028 days ago | link

that's pretty close to perfect.

Anyway, I suppose that the programmer knows what the output is of a certain function, and not be surprised if a function churns out a list rather than two values ;).

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3 points by bogomipz 6025 days ago | link

What if your function originally just returned one value, but at some later point you realize that a second value would be useful in some situations?

With multiple return values you can just extend it without breaking existing clients. If, on the other hand, you add a list wrapper around the returned values, all call sites must be changed to take car of the list.

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3 points by bOR_ 6019 days ago | link

That would be useful indeed. The flip side of the coin might be something that was sort of mentioned in 'on lisp'. If all functions return only one value (be it a list or a single value) by default, you can write a general memoize layer around functions that doesn't have to check how many multiple return values are returned.

I also noticed a carif function in arc. If you are worried about single values that will become lists in the future, you might start using carif in your current clients.

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