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1 point by evanrmurphy 5284 days ago | link | parent

> I've had to think about the scheme substrate a lot when I hack on arc; arc feels a very leaky abstraction as a compiler. The hard part in programming is switching layers of abstraction; if an abstraction boundary is leaky enough, just taking it out entirely may make things easier. That's the hypothesis, anyway.

Sounds like an accurate assessment of Arc, though I guess I've been itching for the opposite (probably more obvious) outcome: an entirely platform-independent "arc.arc" with only the handful of axioms in "ac.scm" to bootstrap and guide ports of Arc to other substrates.

I don't see any reason why we can't have both.



2 points by akkartik 5283 days ago | link

Absolutely. One benefit of the transformation layer is that it allows you to grow the language. It could eventually be completely self-sufficient, but you can start with the hard/interesting parts, and other stuff can gradually be abstracted away.

As an example, ac.scm has a comment that ar-gensym is a toy implementation. I don't need to do toy implementations because I can just use PLT's gensym directly until I decide to build my own.

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